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Day 3 - Sunday 22nd May
 
restrooms down the hall? a few of them. don't need to punch code.
you can take stairs down, or elevator.
WHERE ARE THE LOCALS?
Some people leaving halfway through, or before 5pm.
    If you need those people, check in with them?
If you're staying tonight, did you move into 409? give your key back to reception? if you didn't, give to Liam
 
Photographs on Commons etc.: do we have a page/category?  Rock drum says yes: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:GLAMcamp_NYC
Photos: Only tag yourself if you want, don't tag others.
When Richard gets here - Liam & Richard to finalise money stuff. Reimbursement, per diems.
 
We can break out into other room before 2, or use corridor. (Someone check wifi in the other room please)
 
[discussion of making informative slideshows]
 
=== Demo ===
Kaldari right now (10:44 am) demoing new uploader - http://toolserver.org/~kaldari/uploader/
Kaldari hacked it from the scavenger hunt tool.
Idea: someone sets up the ability to do a bulk upload -- we don't want random people making zillions of uploads!  (right now do not link to the admin interface!)
Create A New Collection: title, acronym, institution, logo, location, inst category, allow uploading, Wikipedia Link.
 
Interface for actual museum person: look at collection. Click UPLOAD button. Example: Airview.  Upload.  Select in your file browing interface natively.  Select All.  Upload.
 
[UNFORCED APPLAUSE]
Liam -- I've been working with them for 3 years.  Most of their stuff, no one is going to buy -- suburbs, bridges, etc.
12K contemporary (full copyright) images - we get release of the low-res, they keep & sell high-res.  Business model.  If this works for them, it's a great example for GLAMs.
 
Uploads into user store on toolserver.  Variety of approaches taking them from there  publishing to Commons.  Maarten has bot to take metadata file & publish to Commons -- hasn't set it up yet, will do.
Or -- build web interface through a tool like this, upload a CSV of metadata, if it's formatted according to our standard, parse through it, publish it through to Commons.
Liam: how robust/reliable?
Kaldari: trick is to have a data standard.  "If you want to be fully automated, follow our standard."  Form a task standard to create that standard.
 
Jarek: .... templates.... have  spreadsheet with fields...
 
We can't get much done on deciding that standard & publishing it on Commons THIS WEEKEND.
 
Maarten: working on getting multiple data formats that GLAMs often use to work
 
Mass categorize or mass rename?  next step....
 
Sarah: well done! blows my mind how quickly you got this done!  we've been talking about this for months & months & months
 
Liam basks in photos from Airview, Sydney photos that remind him of home
    "These are hard photos to otherwise get!"
    "unless you have a really tall tripod"
 
why would you want to resize?
    middle ground -- # of pixels.  Museums don't want them to be the highest # of pixels....
 
should we build in image resizing?  try to make it as hard as possible for people to upload thumbnails of artworks, Jarek argues.
MaartenD: don't make it easy for the public to do
Liam: don't make it easy for GLAMs to do
 
Kaldari: in admin interface, checkbox: "allow resizing?" for each collection.
So, not default.  It's part of the negotiation.
 
Do we have the image handling libraries? yes.  On toolserver: ImageMagick to resize, do rotations, etc.
Photography lab is very picky about color.  So we need to be careful about transformations: ImageMagick is mature and good enough to handle color profiles, etc.
 
What we have now: this tool will output some data that can be consumed by a publishing bot, such as Maarten's bots.
Longterm development: create a sys to define a data standard & then implement a full publishing standard within this tool, not depend on bots or people at all.
 
Liam: we'll go back to day job after this. What next? how do we move forward?
Kaldari: code is all written. we need a data standard.
 
Jarek offers to take a stab at it.
 
Kaldari: set up project page on GLAMwiki or Commons...
 
MaartenB & Z: there exist things like DublinCore we can start with.... 
What Maarten has built lets us ingest many kinds of metadata & publish, & requires some human manual effort.
Kaldari TODAY to build glue code that will connect his code to Maarten's.
=== note from yesterday ===
 
Last year, Richard & Liam met Girl Scouts of NYC, want to create a Girl Scout wikipedia badge for editing or something!
DGG - we have been unable to get traction there
 
Also, the Girl Scouts retweeted Rock drum's blog post about the 2nd day.lhttp://twitter.com/GirlScoutsAdv/status/72265827717627904
 
* Maarten Z. says "Vote for me" (He'd already asked to join the mailing list) : http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Contact 
 
==Sessions==
11:00-1:00:
Breakout: Workshop on Metrics project brief, preferably around 6 people.
 
Documentation creation and review from yesterday's POE work.
(Parallel events needed here)
 
 
2:00-3:00:
DGG proposes breakout on discoverability & use of GLAM material on WP.  There's the example of the Victoria & Albert: Lot of nice photos, but not a lot of them are used. How to get them used?
 
Kaldari: coding upload / metadata ingestion stuff - demo to upload aerial photos.
 
3:00-4:00:
a) MaartenB? suggests plenary session re utilizing GLAMwiki network as a group
 
b) What next in GLAM? Specifically re signing: who does what as a specific
result of this event
    *Metrics*
        Responsible person -
        Goal & Timeframe -
 
    *Badges*
        Responsible person -
        Goal & Timeframe -
 
    *Upload tool & Data Ingestion*
        Responsible person - Kaldari, Multichill
        Goal & Timeframe
            Data Ingestion by end of day? Airview launched today?
 
    *Taskforce for Metadata Standard*
        Responsible person -
        Goal & Timeframe -
 
    *Point of entry*
        Responsible person -
        Goal & Timeframe -
 
    *Documentation*
        Responsible person -
        Goal & Timeframe -
 
    What can we do by Haifa? (Wikimania, early August)
GLAM future more generally, planning for 2012, 2013. Despite there being no budget, Liam will make a recommendation to WMF & movement with TODOs